New Pietta Gunfighter - wife won this for me in a gun My lil mistake: 1st issue Colt Police Positive Special in Press J to jump to the feed. Accuracy * * * * The trigger on our test pistol was surprisingly smooth and the single action broke cleanly at 4 lbs. I find them to carry better all day and be more nimble and quicker to get into action from a holster than the larger frame Smiths. I own one of the new Colt 3 inch fixed sight revolvers it is a stainless steel copy of the old 3 in California Colt Python revolver and the last one I saw on one of my firearms auction catalogs went for $14,000.00 I paid a great deal less for my new Colt 3 inch fixed sight revolver and I was as happy as a little boy on Christmas morning. They had over a 90% one shot stop record. IF I had a Model 19 Id carry either .38 SPL Meat Mashers like I do now or way loaded down .357 with the same bullets. its my understanding the weakness issue at the front of the top strap was solved with the 19-4. The revolver dons a highly polished, blued finish and traditional thumbpiece for a classic look. This is essentially a re-creation of the Model 48 K-22 MRF with a four or six inch barrel (sans under-lug). The current Smith & Wesson info page lists the Model 19 as having a barrel length of 4.25 inches, an overall length of 9.875 inches, and a weight of 37.2 ounces. I may want to re-think this logic during Archery season though. Call Smith & Wesson. There are no problems related to Smith . The Classic also looks bigger in overall size so why would it be more delicate?, if so, it is a waste of money. We show you how. In 1966, Smith introduced a Stainless Combat Magnum, the Model 66. Options were limited to a target trigger, red ramp front sight, and a white outline rear sight blade. All three guns are rated for .38 Special +P ammunition and hold six shots. If you love to wear polyester fabric jackets? The results of my accuracy shooting session with the new Model 19 Classic with a total of 10 factory loads (five .357 Magnum loads and five .38 Special loads) are listed in the accompanying chart. The Model 19 has a flat spot on the bottom of the forcing cone. Technically, I don't know. The rear sight is the classic micrometer adjustable blade but lacks a white outline rear sight. Hand fitting is non-existent. However, there are differences. GDHP. Because of a scandium frame, it's a couple of ounces lighterslightly fewer than 36 ouncesthan the all-steel Model 19. It will all sound plausible to a gun ignorant jury. They also allow for setting min cyl gap. Mine, bought new in the early 1980s, looks just like this one. Ill try that and look for a burr. I put the gun away for the day. Please log in again. I had a -3 round butt that I couldnt shoot worth a darn. Keep your firearms safe, secure & in prestine condition. The Lawyer Lock aperture AKA the Hillary Hole that can prevent a shooter from getting a round off makes this gun worthless as a defensive weapon. Let the new gun owners have their space in time. In 1955, Smith & Wesson introduced the .357 Combat Magnum which would become the Model 19 two years later when the company went to a model-numbering system. I had an old Rossi .38 that did something similar. This allows S&W to place the barrel shroud over an index tab on the front of the frame and then insert and thread the barrel tube to the frame and to the shroud at the muzzle end, bringing the shroud against the frame as it torques down rather than the traditional threading and crush fitting of the old-style one-piece barrel that requires forcefully tightening to proper index. Ive only ever owned one revolver, and I regret letting it go. Just clean it up with a ScotchBrite pad. Hands-On Review of the Smith & Wesson Equalizer, Savage Arms Introduces Iconic 1911 Government Model Pistols. Whats yours? $1249.00 . This was not a serious issue with the .38 Special +P loads. A little force is sometimes required, before it will "snap" open. So in 1975, my first Model 19 arrived with all the target goodie options. Instead, all we get are 686s and GP-100s and the added weight that keeps them from being good field guns. The single-action trigger pull averaged 4.0 pounds, 12.0 ounces with my RCBS trigger-pull scale, and the double-action pull was 13.0 pounds. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It's the high-velocity loads that are most prone to crack the forcing cone, which is the issue with the older M19's. Shooting .38+P and lightly loaded magnums are okay, and enjoyable. Smith & Wesson. The info pages further adds that, "The Smith & Wesson Classics series of revolvers have been enhanced with modern internal components, but mimic the look and feel of classic models. Grip: factory walnut (others available) Theres just no comparison. Add to Wish List. the .357 Magnum offers relatively little stopping power improvement over the 9mm+P.. Smith & Wesson discontinued the production of the Model 19 in 1999 and the Model 66 in 2005. The gun has gone by many names; the Outdoorsman, K-22, and Masterpiece (with Target, Combat and other variations), always delivering spot-on performance no matter the variation or the name. Every thing you need in a fighting pistol and nothing you dont need. The Smith & Wesson Classics series of revolvers have been enhanced with modern internal components, but mimic the look and feel of classic models. It has a classic ramped front sight with an orange insert for increased visibility pinned atop the . The barrel is composed of an inner liner and an outer shroud. Only pre mim.pre Hillary hole smiths for me. Ill just be content with the half dozen pre-locks I have. The frame is real important. Failure to fire twice. They provide a reduced profile but still allow for a full grip on the pistol. Anyone with a chrono and the appropriate guns can confirm that. Thats plenty good for self defense work, and also good enough for any hunting of light skinned game within the ballistic limits of the round. The only Smith I will own with a lock would be a .22 caliber, because I would never carry it for self-defense. It does everything I required of it when I bought it but I didnt include pleasure to hold and own in the requirements. In my ignorant youth, I wanted hi cap semis only. The 19 is a great serious-looking revolver. They were traded in on the Sig Sauer 225 in .45 cal. Ill be the first to admit that when it comes to shooting, Im no Bill Jordan. Aluminum alloy frame and cylinder Stainless steel barrel XS Sights White Dot front sight Subscriber Services. I prefer the new Colt King Cobra instead. The new Model 19 Classics rear sight is fully adjustable, and it has a plain black blade. End shake? I would expect that anyone with even a fundamental grasp on English would not have read my sentence on the cycle of the 29s cylinder as the notion that once the trigger is touched, the cylinder just spins on while firing, as you apparently have. Over the years I used 4,6,2 1/2 19 and various others as assignments needs required. The Model 66 quickly became the preferred service pistol for law enforcement agencies across the country. The Smith & Wesson Classics series of revolvers have been enhanced with modern internal components, but mimic the look and feel of classic models. Gun Review, If the pistol has a striker, you cannot feel anything as you pull the trigger other than taking up the often considerable slack and spring tension. A thorough reading of the entire article will provide a clear . S&W Model 19 Classic .357 Magnum "Combat Master Reborn"!Re-Introduced after 19 years, the Classic has upgraded features but still keeps the Spirit of the ear. The next most noticeable element emanating from this revolver is the finish. The single action trigger never moved the sights, the sight radius is long for a pistol, and the grip gave me a rock solid hold. View. Bought a S&W model 19 as a on Duty revolver in 1970. Over time, using the .357 Magnum load, the temperature and pressure caused by these rounds will erode, cut into, and weaken the frame of the gun. The .357 cartridge was created by Winchester for S&W in the 1930's and used in the "N" frame S&W. When shooting double action, the trigger was suddenly harder to pull. Exactly why the first thing I did was skim the pictures looking for a shot of the cylinder release. There also is a new Performance Center Model 19 with a 3.0-inch barrel and a few other interesting features (see the accompanying sidebar for more details about it). 1,025.99 . The original K-Frame Combat Magnum was conceptualized in 1954 and was the brainchild of Carl Hellstrom and Bill Jordan. That was one of the places where I can certainly notice the difference between this gun and my Model 29. 4.5 (54) Smith & Wesson Model 642 .38 Special +P Revolver . We would qualify with ,38 spl., but carried the revolver loaded with .357 ammo. . Just picked one up last week. You can also stretch the topstrap, such that the window changes in dimension. It was this issue that motivated Smith to introduce the L frame series. I wish S&W would go back to these earlier designs and improve them. They both also use the full diameter forcing cone which removes the weak link of a notched cone for cyl clearance creating early cracked forcing cones. No speed loaders, no trigger pull gage, no full power loads, and no 4 barrel which is the length everyone carried back in the day when the Model 19 (and Model 66) was the preferred duty revolver for many in law enforcement. Side Refine Panel. I started with .38 Special, moved to .38 Special +p, and ended up shooting regular magnum loads. I have several S&W revolvers now, but damn, would I like to have that one back. For that kind of shooting, I like to begin by working on making a smooth draw from the holster and putting two shots on target at a distance ranging from about five yards to seven yards. I believe a large fiber-optic or dot-type front sight would make defensive shooting faster, but I grew up shooting S&Ws red ramp front sight, so it works just fine for me. JWT makes a point regarding 1 7/8 .357s vs. 9mm +Ps. Give a Gift This cartridge can be used in any situation where a handgun could come into play. Le/Mil Only. Then a couple of years later, I wised up and got an S&W 19 four inch and carried that until my wife bought me a Model 66 with a six inch barrel, the stainless version of the Model 19. The front sight is a pinned ramp with a retro red ramp insert. That keeps the front end of the cylinder clean. Every group from all variety of ammo loads are smaller than 2 @25 yards and you were disappointed? The solutions to the issues presented will be discussed in this article. Produced continuously from 1957 to 1999, tens of thousands of police officers carried a Model 19 on their hip, includingUS Immigration and Naturalization Service and the US Border Patrol agents. S&W also provides this synthetic grip, which completely transforms the personality of the gun. so check Salt N Pepa Jacket which is a most selling outfit in our store, Shop now and get amazing discounts and offers. I tend to replace guns when I find something better. An object in motion tends to stay in motion; once it starts, the big .44 caliber cyclinder wants to keep on spinning. I even had a Class A engraved Model 19 with a 6.0-inch barrel during the late 1980s, but I decided I didnt need any of my barbeque guns and traded off all my engraved S&Ws, Brownings, Remingtons, and Rugers. The .357 out of a lever gun is even more stout. That DA will try to sway the jurors that since you removed the lock, that shows an attitude of looking for a gunfight, and so forth, ad nausea. Former gun slinger, current gun writer. Like many revolvers of the era, the Model 25 can load six rounds of .45 Colt. Range work always brings out things that are not readily noticeable from a cursory examination. The only complaint I had was knoxing the site out of line getting in and out on the stwering wheel off the Patrol Car, and the grip size, which was too big for my hands, but was corrected when I went to Firearms Instructor School, with Hogue rubber groves grips. New materials and manufacturing processes allow for more efficient production, both in labor and cost. But I am often surprised by the stupidity of others. GDHP and Agulias 158 gr. I just couldnt get the cylinder to turn fast enough. The arrival of the 1500 custom relegated it to the Distinguished matches and just plain having fun at the range. The new Combat Magnum was initially offered with a 4 barrel. The Model 19 Classic weighs 37.2 ounces and is 9.9 inches long and 5.8 inches high. No Smith with Hillary Hole for me. After the military switched back to using the Colt 1911, Smith & Wesson released its new Model 39 to the public in 1955. I will never let it go until I die A classic shooter. The flat part of your forcing cone is normal for this revolver and is one of the reasons the guns fail when one puts a steady diet of .357s through their guns. All the pivoting/bearing surfaces are smoothed up and polished, and the rebound spring is lightened by trimming a coil or so off of it. He even appeared on television in 1955. Im getting a Ruger or a Colt. Why not bring back the Model 28? WOW! The only handguns guns with regular accuracy that can reach sub 1.5 @25 yd that are budget friendly CZ P-09 but it really needs trigger work. Since then even though 10s of 1000s of revolvers safely ate these with boring regularity once lawyers starting dictating policy and buisness cartidge performance went down not all at once but a bit yr after yr and to this day is still happening. Ruger LCP For Sale . I know that was a bargain, and that the Ruger isnt as classy as the Smith. Of course they often come with outstanding grips that feel really nice. Most officers simply never fired enough rounds through their revolvers during their careers for this to be an issue. If you have a M19, then you gotta get a M27. which I would avoid in the J and K frames. Yet the Rugers, with about the same weight and balance as the Smiths, tend to go for hundreds of thousands magnum loads, whereas the Smiths dont. Although there new revolvers with the Hillary are not for me having a new 686 lock fail right out of the box! The keyhole is not obligatory because they still make some popular models (e.g. However, once that barrel length increases to service pistol size, and certainly once you hit the four-inch mark, the .357 Magnum offers a tremendous advantage. MIM parts I can deal with, Im a gunsmith by trade and know how to smooth the trigger up so that MIM parts are unnoticeable. Mr. Farago is always looking for quality gun-related content. Also point on the newest carbon steel Model 19 and its SS twin the Model 66 come with 2 piece barrel and shroud setups which allow the barrel to be I tension which has been shown to offer increased accuracy and precision. I still have it and enjoyed many pistol qualifications over the years. And I have a pair of older Model 19s that are great. 1) The so-called Hillary Hole, I thought I could live with it when I bought my M-27 Classic.every time I look at the left side of the revolver, that freakin lock gets a little uglier, its become a deal breaker. Check Price . For several decades now S&W has had the attitude that they will build whatever they want and if the consumer doesnt like it, TOUGH SHIT, Im no longer willing to live with that attitude, too many good, older guns out there to settle for less. It was also more enjoyable for the shooter and much kinder on the pistol. The Price for a Smith & Wesson 586 Classic has increased in cost by $0.00 in 2023 compared to 2022. But in all fairness, you need to compare that snubby to a 3 or shorter 9 mm. Make no mistake, the recoil is very stout! He didnt have time to shoot the new revolver before the performance, so he didnt use it; however, he did show it to the world of TV viewers, saying it was the answer to a peace officers dream. The gun went on to become a very successful design, extremely popular with law enforcement officers as well as with sportsmen. The Smith & Wesson Model 19 Combat Magnumwasone of the most beloved handguns ever made. http://ruger.com/products/gp100/specSheets/1740.html, shoot range sessions with .38 specials, carry .357 Magnums for hunting and self-defense., And watch the bullet sail right over the deers back because the .38 specials are going to hit 8 inches higher than the .357 magnum rounds. The Model 19 Classic features a handsome set of walnut grips, a 4.25" barrel, a black adjustable rear and red ramp front sights. At $117 at the time they were a deal. | I qualify with my 2 model 19 at 50 yards and have much tighter groups than that 66 at 25 yards. Not sure why the author keeps referring to the target stocks on both his original M19 and the new Classic M19 as magnas. model 19, Still have my Model 19 6 bought new in 1977, purchased to accompany my .30-06 on hunting trips The one modification made to it was rounding the grip to allow for a more comfortable grip. I spoke with two long retired officers who carried (and loved) the four-inch Model 19. I was interested in how long it would take a Magnum-only diet to damage a Model 19, so I asked around. And give us the shining gems of the earlier days. Chris Whisler writes . Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. As much as I love the S&W 686 revolvers, they just arent 19/66s. I keep telling you folks that people are willing to pay for quality. Can you imagine what given the huge jump in tech of bullet construction a 110-125gr full house max psi load would do by the old loading standards. Another pet peeve of mine, people who dont know that those Federal, Hornady, etc. God help the goblin that stops one. Replace the spring of the magazine. Smith & Wesson Model 19 Classic (the new re-issue): It looks cool with the classic new design and the blued finish. Zero issues with a variety of rounds and a lot of magnum caliber shooting. But the Model 19 Classic was up to the challenge. obligatory key lock. You have some tough standards!:-). You are here. I look forward to seeing what Smith does in the future. This revolver features rubber grips and is offered with a 2.75-inch barrel, as well as the standard 4.25-inch barrel. Further, Ive noticed that on S&Ws webpage, they always depict the revolvers showing the right (non-hole) side of the weapon. I cannot further condone the use of such folly. On a S&W, thats 0.002. S&W made some great revolvers decades ago, but the model 19 while having a great fit would crack forcing cones. (Unfortunately, I didnt have any speed loaders.) Re: S&W and sleeved barrels. Back to 1954. The Model 19 for this review is a used gun, manufacturedsometime between 1967-70. eBay; Sporting Goods; Hunting Equipment; Gun Storage; . Still they were/are wonderful feeling guns. The Model 19/66 also was one of the finest guns ever made. And pistol grips can often be considerably less than comfortable. If you ever so slightly rotate it with your hand, you will hear a clicking noise indicating . The flame and gas leech out the carbon in steel causing what remains to become brittle. In my eyes, it's one of the sexiest revolvers ever made. If it functions OK unloaded, the problem is most likely powder residue glued to a chamber wall with factory lubrisludge. Price Used: $800-$900 as reviewed, available online. There ought to be one of those shrouds over the ejector rod. Bill Jordan was very fast with the K. A little practice, perhaps. INTHE LATER PERIOD OF MY 40+ YEAR CAREER I CARRIED SEMI AUTOES, BUT NOTHING IS GREATER THAN MY WHEEL GUNS. In my view, S&W needs to reissue the Model 19/66s, only beefed up in the right parts, without turning the guns into boat anchors! The bore is five-groove rifled with a 1:18.75 right-hand twist. The hammerspur is checkered and measures 0.38 inch wide. I have shot a model 66 with the new shrouded barrel and the lock. The ejector rod is tight. Kimber K6S Tle .357 Mag / .38 Spl. Three years later it was chambered for .38 Special. The Model 19 Classic revolver features a handsome set of walnut grips, a 4.25 barrel, a black adjustable rear sight, and red ramp front sight. The pre-1971 Model 19 is a classicthat earned its reputation. If the lock is intended to keep children from firing the gun, this may lead to irresponsible leaving the locked gun out. Great write-up, JWT. I really enjoyed this review and appreciate such a classic. Its hard to describe just how well and intuitively the Model 19handles. After a couple years of qualifying with the .357s the M-66s started to shake loose. Has that stupid lawyer lock which means these are hot garbage. I bought my wife a steel revolver last winter and have been a bit envious since. Fire shots more accurately with a Smith & Wesson revolver. SMITH & WESSON MODEL 19-3 W/ FACTORY BOX AND PAPERWORK, CHAMBERED IN - .357 Magnum: 0 5d 6h 7m 17262118. As a note, good on whoever owned and maintained this revolver before I got it. These are ammo for my wifes snub battery. Behind-the-Scenes at SIGs Electro-Optics Factory, Speer Gold Dot .38 Special +P 125 gr. As I pointed out below the true full pressure stuff is the Buff alo Bore, Double Tap, etc. There seems to be a problem serving the request at this time. The Model 19 is great for those just learning to shoot a revolver, as well as for a daily carry, personal defense pistol. Still, it took some getting used to. These loads are not for the faint of heart. Eventually I ponied up the cash for a bull barreled PPC revolver to shoot the 1500 matches, but for a few years that Model 19 was the only arrow in my PPC quiver. I love the 19 more than anything and prize them, evwn over my new Sig P226, Mt25 Romeo, I will pick up next week when I get back home from a cruise. I will also say this: Kimbers revolvers are EXTREMELY close to S&W K-frames when it comes to double action trigger pull out of the box. Length: 8 Two-handed, it gave me plenty of real estate for an absolutely rock-solid hold on the mid-framed Magnum. As the law enforcement community transitioned to semi-auto pistols, the demand for the Combat Magnum waned. Model 19 Classic Smith & Wesson. (snaps back to reality) That will be a fine firearm. Theyre all still with me all these decades later, still flawless, still accurate, still the same superb double action trigger pull. The author refers to the new Model 19, like the old model, not being able to sustain much use of full power 357 Mag loads. Nice gun, but I will always remember the beauty of blued steel and walnut stocks. The only candidates to replace my 19 are heavier framed revolvers in the same caliber from the S&W Performance Center. Even though this is a 4 pistol with square butt stocks, the frame has a round butt contour. The deep illustrious bluing found on all of the Classic revolvers from Smith & Wesson is simply one-of-a-kind. S&W's 686 PC is a competition-class thoroughbred for discerning wheelgun addicts. Including the full length barrel underlug. Capacity: 6 rounds Yes sir. Maybe it was different where you grew up. If I had to pick a favorite pistol type it would be the k frame S&W. Burr maybe? That seems OK when I measure it with a feeler gauge. .357 loads are not full pressure .357 loads and the Buffalo Bore, Double Tap, etc. Note: The 19-3 revolver with 357 magnum self defense loads is always on my hip while hunting, just in case I run into an overly aggressive (or hungry) bear that wants to mess with me. Smith & Wesson is merely trying to make their revolvers be accepting to the widest audience possible, but honestly, that is an eye-sore. That is a lot of cash. I could have saved myself a few minutes of pointless reading if this sad fact had been revealed earlier. Smith has also installed a ball/detent crane lock, and of course, the new 19 has the obligatory key lock. That little hole above the cylinder release is my main turn off with S&W revolvers. I initially used S&W grips for a .38 Air Weight snub-nose but they were a little small for good control. model70 3 yr. ago An experienced smith fixed it for a few bucks. DAO Pocket Pistol Chambered in 380 ACP . Sounds like you pulled out all the stops for a comprehensive review Jon. Check Price . The login page will open in a new tab. Regrettably, I now have to carry a semi-auto, and although I do well, I truly miss my Smith & Wesson revolvers. The use of ammunition that is incompatible with the revolver is among the possible causes. I've owned five Smith revolvers bought used; zero bought new. The first thing you notice is the grip. Thats all I can think of? Fortunately most other firearm manufacturers have wisely chosen to delete this exercise in stupidity. On any of my S&W revolvers that I shoot regularly, they get an action job. It is a widespread issue with this revolver. However, happened to watch a hickock45 review where he mentioned, it was spitting on him (cylinder gap) when he tested it. Smith & Wesson Model 19 Classic 4.25" DA/SA K/L-Frame Revolver Chambered in 357 Magnum . I do miss that gun. No go; not with MIM parts. Smith & Wesson Model 66, 4.25" Barrel, 357 Magnum . A revolver in medium weight that has excellent handling, fires a powerful cartridge with wonderful accuracy. . That gun had much better balance and was far superior to the GPs. 3 bids. If the 19 is a Glock 17, then the Model 13 is a Glock 19. Second department we used .357 that were 125gr. Did you clean it before shooting? The 6.0- and 2.5-inch blued models were discontinued in 1996 and 1998 respectively. They were available in both a deep blue and a polished nickel finish. Do you experience the same problem with magnum pistol calibers? Using a wide variety of ammunition, none of my five-shot groups shot from a sandbag were larger than two inches at 25 yards. I have carried countless S&W revolvers over the years. I retired as aFederal Det/Lt carrying a Sig P228. Get the best deals on Smith & Wesson when you shop the largest online selection at eBay.com. Any of you bought the new Model 19? I thought that aspect was improved with a thicker forcing cone. I didnt grind down the cam because if my 686 needs warranty work, I can always put the lock parts back in before sending it to S&W. Loved the article JW. The .357 Magnum cartridge is the single most versatile round ever developed in my, and many others, opinion. $12.60 shipping . Clearly, Im no Jerry Miculek. All Rights Reserved. The only reliable gun safety is between the shooters ears. Not sure why the author feels it is slow. It is a sleek, good looking, pistol with great lines and a blue finish. The .357 Magnum just cant burn all that powder in such a short barrel. Its failure due to the lock would not get me killed. But when you despise the Hillary Hole that makes it a lot easier to consider a Kimber instead. Because the .38 Specials we have been using have turned out a little puny a few times. When I bought my .30-30 I thought about going with a .44magnum but while the right load will produce more energy, that advantage is gone by 75 yards. It was a 4 inch blued model 19 the had Idaho State Police on the side of it. Smith has expanded their Classic line of revolvers to include thirteen models. At some point the county prosecutor mandated that we had to qualify with what we carried in the gun. Back in the day, theModel 19 wasdescribed as the perfect combat Magnum. For a service grade carry revolver, the 19, especially with a 4 barrel, is ideal. A very good finish, but no deep pools of gleaming blue. loads are not +p but just standard full pressure loads which every revolver is proofed to 130%. 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