OP-the one man who reached out to you, I feel he is a solid individual and have to give You major points to talking with him. I mean, youre not wrong petty king/queen. You have a couple of children and a good life up until now. Like who knows what other shitty conversations she participated in, especially since this isn't the first time they've expressed this kind of thinking. I wouldnt let her off the hook easily, but we all say and do some dumb stuff and I think she deserves a chance make it up to you and resolve the situation. Im healthy and fit, exercise frequently and eat well, so that kind excludes most physiological causes. People knowing that hes bi will damage his reputation? I was so suprised how she talked about me to her friends and family..and when I confronted her I had the evidence. She didn't have your back and she put friendship with assholes over her partner in life. thats some foul behaviour. Your wife needs some new friends. I turned around and stormed off to our room. And also, alcohol intake needs to be curtailed. I will admit i dont tell my friends everything either, but if it comes up i wont join in and make fun of people who get made fun of for doing what i am into. If she truly loves you she is going to beat herself up for a while. They are not good people (homophobes are not good people), and they don't give a shit about you or your relationship with her. Ngl bro the first halve is disrespect enough, you now know she keeps important shit to herself like Tom tryna derail your marriage and is at the same time comfortable sharing your personal life with her friends and entertaining her friends disrespecting you in your own home. Girls can be katty and have fun taking diggs at each other (guys too but its a stereotypical thing with girls). Especially the two narrow minded ones, All these comments already have good points, I just wanna add that you should definitely take your time. Is going to take a very long time to fix such fuckery. I even heard her shoosh the friend who said it and peek inside the kitchen but I hid behind the counter and kept listening. I have also been outed in a similar way. Right? The mmmhmmm's give that away. Too many people on this app will read this and tell she can never be trusted again and you need to divorce. You definitely have every right to be upset and angry, but I honestly feel like she is telling you the truth, and they were just unfortunately things you werent supposed to hear. Do NOT let her tell you your feelings are wrong. Forgive them anyway. Many of your friends and family pick up on this anyway. No, don't buy it. If you love her at your core, and want to work through it then work but it doesn't have to happen quickly or on any schedule. One of my wifes friends was fairly insistent about her divorcing me but honestly it came from a genuine place, its a weird situation and if you cant see how happy we are, I cant blame you for not getting it. I dont get down with revenge fucks, but if I thought she was super malicious Id be behind that comment. Its so stupid, Im sure shes great in all other aspects but she needs to stand up for you. If it was truly an accident, she shouldn't keep talking about it, she should always just say "I fucked up in telling you that. My 2 cents is not worth much, but why did she not feel the need to tell you when she realized she let it slip from the drunken night? Wife and I have been married 7 years and its literally the marriage everyone wants. Do not just shrug it off if you stay. For a moment I felt ashamed. I packed a bag, kissed the kids goodbye, and told them I was going to grandmas house to help her with something. They had quiet music playing and were talking amongst themselves. So my wife and one of her girlfriends were having a few glasses of wine, and while I was in my office I overheard a very awkward part of their conversation The other woman was complaining about her husband, quite openly, and specifically about the size of his penis. Your partner in crime fucked up. It's not cool she didn't. The bigger problem seems to be that she's embarrassed of it, not willing to stick up for it/you, and is willing to lie to her friends to fit into what they want her to be. Does it not show a serious weakness in character that she bull shitted like that? After some begging I agreed to come home tomorrow and talk. Sorry bro, no words. Most people will say bi/lesbian women are "ok" because it's "hot" (I've been told that), and will see bi/gay men as an atrocity just because it's men with other men. Your wife acted poorly. She does have a right to talk to you about it, and you with her. Fuck her if she cannot be your confidant she's worthless, tell her to get rid of her hateful friends. He said if i wanna get together for a drink or whatever to let him know. Then the friend asked my wife if she had ever been tempted to cheat on me with (insert ex-boyfriend's name), to which my wife replied saying hell no, that she would never risk our marraige like that. Beer runs out so I head inside to grab more. They honestly seem jealous if they care that much about what you enjoy sexually. Be open with her. Part of thinks I should be able to accept her apology and shrug this off.maybe I overacting.but its all I can think about. I am so sorry this has happened to you. Your wife betrayed your trust by sharing private details about your sexual preferences with other people. Come on, you're not 19 anymore. That's where your power is. Ive never felt this upset. Once your sexual history was out in the open and left you vulnerable to her girlfriends judgements, she decided to join in and talk shit about it and mention that she thinks of other men while pleasuring you since it turns her off. I agree with the counseling. You both need to get in front of a good counselors and dig in. Thats the shittiest advice you could give someone. Plus she essentially participated or at the least validated, them ridiculing his sexuality. My bf and I have been together not long 3 years but hes 33, I 27, and whenever there is even a shred of something that bugs either one of us we tell each other. Your marriage is between the two of you. How I interpret she feels: she let slip in a drunken night that youre bi, she enjoys your sex life and when her friends made you the butt of the joke and were being judgmental about it, she felt ashamed, and in true weak fashion chose to join in vs stand up for you and herself. Your refusal to do so speaks to your character. The third, least savoury issue: She may still have hidden feelings for Tom. All of us are who we are meant to be, at this particular time in our life. This doesnt excuse anything. she outed you, made cruel jokes about your guys sex life, and didnt shut down her friends for being homophobic/biphobic. Imagine all the other crap she does drunk, only to blame it on being drunk . Thats not someone you stay in a marriage with. IN YOUR HOME. I could give the benefit of the double and believe she fakes the homophobic/biphobic stuff for her friends. I don't know what I'd do. She's painting an imaginary picture for these "friends" with absolutely no regard to the feelings of the person she's supposed to love & care for. Your wife is a pretty disgusting person. Now this doesnt mean shes a 100% shit person. Will you ever be able to "do the bi stuff" in bed with her again? Take a few days away from everything. How could you ever trust this person again. Definitely think about whether or not this is a dealbreaker. Solve thid situation by TALKING let her explain herself and then tell her what you feel. I will always defend my guy. I am a firm believer that most things can be worked through. Own who you are and youll feel so much better. Any other friends you have in common likely know. It was lovely that the mate called you and said what he did. Especially the part where she acts like its a close call between you and Tom to her girlfriends. So how wonderful was their family while his wife is sharing secrets and laughing behind his back? First of all, you're right to cool down before making decision on anything. For years. She needs new friends what a bunch of assholes. Women talk shit to each other just as much as men do. Remind her of this without judging. Be kind anyway. From what Ive been told by friends and family my wife and Tom had a hot and cold volatile relationship and he was not the best to her (cheating, controlling). Also, people who have satisfying sex lives dont talk about it, just like people who have actual wealth dont have to tell you). I would never be able to sleep with my wife again but OP might be better than me. No true friend will stab you in the back. Normally I'd say you have to share it but I'm not sure what that looks like. Weirdly enough, weve never gotten any negative feedback from our closest friends. Best of luck with whatever you decide! That is something you tell your partner immediately after it happens (same with exposing your sexuality to her friends). Get used to me being stupid". Exactly! I would just ask why her friends opinions matter more than yous twos intimacy. No. "I overheard my wife talking to one of her best friends on the phone while I was passing the bedroom. Sending you my best OP. Dont just jump straight to divorce. I live in a fairly large Canadian metropolitan area, most guys I know and hang out with are even a little bi. Best to you. I started putting a voice recorder in my wife's car after u caught her cheating. he was more "passionate" etc. Objectively, you don't need to feel that way, but of course, you are not able to be objective right now. Thirdly, those friends have got to GO. How would she feel if she overheard this? And regarding the "I let it slip while drunk" part, she's still responsible for her acts while drunk. Taking a sensitive topic like sexuality and using yours in a way to demean you just so she can get a chuckle from her friends is unacceptable. This friend is in a serious relationship," he kicked off the contenscious post. Kidding aside. When we had problems of a sexual nature it made me feel worse that her friends who would constantly gossip amongst each other knew. Doesnt make it right. I haven't gotten through this personally, however, I would suggest marriage counseling if you stay with her. I mean i think you can talk it out?? My take: there may be some truth in her fabrications to her friends, which makes her even worse. But it's not cool to talk about your spouse like that to fit in and it's definitely not cool to talk about your intimate secrets with other people. My step-dad said, "I feel like I always have to watch what I have to say, and I shouldn't have to worry about . Would she throw them under the bus too or try to forbid them from coming out? Second, if you know somebody is making fun of you over something so intimate and personal, how can you enjoy it again? I know that your * secret life * is very personal to you, but not many people will be concerned or even bothered about your sexuality. I packed a bag, kissed the kids goodbye, and told them I was going to grandmas house to help her with something. If alcohol was involved the first time she told them, maybe she was talking about it because she wanted to get a read on how her friends would react. Tom hasn't been relevant for seven years. Therapy is the next logical step. Most importantly, YOU DID NOT GIVE CONSENT to the things she is talking about!! That's just me, though. Most of it was on alt accounts he made. What drops it a full letter grade for me is that the protagonist is always an Abercrombie model. You both need support and work towards creating a space where you both can be more honest with one another. Let's give your wife the benefit of the doubt for a moment. When the bi thing slipped, she should have told you. Another violation of your trust. Couples counseling may help rebuild trust. Honestly, I don't know if I'd be able to get past never being able to trust her with personal stuff again. My mom wasnt even home, I had forgotten she was on vacation. As for your wife - I think her feelings are understandable even if her actions were insensitive. Im so lost. So many unnecessary details. There were 3 friends with her. Why should he have to tell the whole world his sexuality? I'm not sure how your marriage survives without professional help. One day he throws a temper tantrum, and instead of talking with me about his insecurities, he goes off and tells everyone about it. There is nothing worse than feeling betrayed by the one person you thought you could trust with anything. I genuinely thought we were in love, until I overheard her on the phone recently remarking to a friend that she feels she settled for me and thinks about her ex every day. I would never be able to fully be myself around my wife again after such an event, and to me that means there's just no way we can work anymore. Second, I am sorry you heard them given that I dont know exactly what it would take to rebuild trust from where you are currently. I reckon that weve all said things we wouldnt want our SO to hear at some point. As a female this reads as if it wasn't the first time it's been brought up and her friends knew it was safe to mention and joke about it. I am a very chill guy. Did she give me advice? I got in my car and drove to my moms house. I'm sorry you're going through this but your wife is such a shit person man. By bringing it up then and making your feelings the most important feelings in the room, you are being childish. Finding this out, I personally dont know if I could get past it. The sheer betrayal of trust is breathtakingly awful. Your anger is justified, but breaking up your wonderful family over this is too much and a shame? You are not overreacting. Who cares if she feels pressured by her friends to make fun of your sexuality or thinking about Tom, she either has shitty friends or she needs to take accountability for her actions and learn to grow up. German Young Boy Seduce Big Tit Step-Mom to Lost Virgin 16:20. Keep sleeping on it, brother. Also, if shes lying to you about this, I feel absolutely certain that are other things you dont know. The bottom pine is you're supposed to be able to confide in her about these things and she's mishandled your trust. Funny thing she thought it would cheer me up to tell absolutely fucking everyone, just to cheer me up. You're definitely overreacting but to a strange set of circumstances. We say things to fit in, to belong, to make people laugh, to shock people and to make ourselves seem more impressive or likeable and so on - we dont always say things just because we mean the words that come out of our mouths. Are those things outweighed by her indiscrete talking (and her judgemental friends). Personally I don't think it's bad enough to end a good relationship over but you should make it clear that trying to hide her mistake and belittling you to others to save her self from their scorn is both childish and cruel. Especially the part where she acts like its a close call between you and Tom to her girlfriends. Good luck and I do feel for you. It's not a secret, kept in a fault. It's mainly drunk talk and a bit of peer pressure getting to your wife and she clearly regrets it We all make mistakes sometimes but this is how you grow as a couple! The big question is are you still in love with your wife and enjoy having a family with her? How would she feel, how would she react, etc. Your wife's unfortunate refusal to do the same speaks to her character too. Sounds like she cares more about what her friends think than how you feel. Its just another role, like being the dutiful daughter or the waste of space ex or the everyone loves me co-worker. I think it wouldve been different if maybe she had some concerns and needed someone to confide in about it, but she shouldve never allowed them to speak about you that way. Do not make them feel you're different because you're not! What a surprise, all her excuses completely absolve her! Ugh. I told her to get a therapist to talk to about it but DO NOT TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT MY DICK essentially. She said she really felt bad when she realized she outed you, but I mean how sorry is she really if here she is bringing it up AGAIN? If that partner had outed me to anyone, I would have never been able to trust them again. You can always tell when they offer up explanations to any potential objections before they're asked. Judging from what is written it seems that shes as much into it as he is, she needs to be real about that. Rob the "state" of whatever you are going through of its power by giving it zero importance. I can also understand how this could be a blow to your confidence. Especially when it all seems to have been going well. You need to learn how to deal with being outed and your stupid wife needs to understand the true ramifications for you. Personally, I would consider this along the same lines of cheating in my relationship, because it's a complete breach of trust and security you're supposed to have with your partner. It actually did make me feel a little better. Itll be hurtful to both of you for a long time and you probably both need therapy but if you truly do love each other, itll be worth it. She destroyed your trust, and trust takes a long time to repair. Right? Please think about going to individual counseling as well as couples counseling! One of the guys who was there called me and I answered. I don't thibk this calls for a divorce but itw definitely a violation of trust and deserves to be handled as a serious issue not a minor mistake. So she made you the butt of their jokes eventho she actively takes part in your sexlife and enjoys it. Sorry you're going through this. She outed you to your group of friends without asking you about it. I doubt your own friends would even care, they might tease you a little but thats what friends do. Be honest anyway. If you don't care about your partner enough to defend them when they aren't there, why the fuck are you even with them? It's not infidelity but to me it sounds just as fucking bad. Nope, don't buy it. First of all, I don't trust your wife. Give your best anyway. If my friends talked about my SO like that I would be livid and we wouldnt be friends anymore. After a very long silence, she said, "I guess we'll see how it all comes out in the wash anyway." They went to bed soon after. And her dissing your sexual needs to her friends and I truly understand that it was very hurtful and disrespectful to you and your marriage. It sounds like you're discovering a side of your wife you didn't know about. Your wife probably didn't want to admit in front of her friends that she likes that you're into butt stuff and initiates most of the time. Best of luck. Or so that she wont identify you? That was 100% a choice on her part. She needs to take responsibility for it and how it made you feel. And can think clearly. So here is a truth I don't think many men/women/etc get: SO's talk. It's going to suck, but it's always worth it to try and move on. The women were all on the patio outside. My guess is that she was only sorry he caught her and she's been crying because she's about to become a divorced mom. How I interpret you feel: she betrayed your trust, she shared your private life, and then made fun of it. I turned to my wife with a raised eyebrow and announced I guess you didnt have me pegged to be a man that would stand up for himself! And I majestically brushed my cape back and walked right out of the house. Anyone that believes stay for the kids has literally never had any experience as a kid whos parents stayed for them. Do you believe what she told you? These ones sound terrible. When you can't control what's happening, challenge yourself to control the way you respond to what's happening. They are what they are and they are very real. She forced him out, and its time for her to join him. Stand firm in that it wasn't okay to disclose private information that you didn't want to be made public. 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