Very Good condition. The last page shows our interpolated numbers, on 5 inch stations, with varnish already subtracted, using both the Howell method (measure stations from the butt up) or the "classic" method (measure stations from the tip down.) It seems several people have made rods for a given ferrule size (Dickerson #) with a size larger Super-Z. November - May I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. Tapers are very personal things. 0.160 (Harry Boyd), In Dickerson-speak, does a 7613 have a 14 on the butt to 13 on the tip or a 13 on the butt to 12 on the tip stepdown? Here are the tapers of the Dickerson 8014GS from the rod Jeff Fultz mic'ed and from Banjo's rod, since I had several requests both on and off list, I'll post here so anyone who wants them can save them. They would be, Heavy butt section, Light butt section, heavy tip, light tip, Parabolic (heavy in the middle) and the hinge (light in the middle). So it seems that we are actually in complete agreement. I have built Russ' version, which I believe was posted yesterday, and I love it. It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. 55 0.217 145405 0.248 The rod I measured generally has 3/3 node spacing with the exception of two nodes falling right next to each other. The Lovely Reed by Jack Howell has numbers for the 1949 and 1951 versions. Users can select the appropriate Morgan Handmill Cutter to match the geometry including both the 60.5 and 61.5 degree cutters for hex rods. (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? There are no great tapers and nobody invented anything. A few of the tapers shown on the deflection comparison page are not listed here as they are from active rodmakers; out of professional courtesy I prefer not to offer those for sale. Orvis passed the 60,000 bamboo rods made number quite some time back and of course is still making them. The 1952 Dickerson is similar to the GW except it's a 5/6 wt. 5 .096 .244 He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. 60 0.242 0.278 (Mark Wendt), Dickerson (like all of us who draw their own tubing) used 1/64 wall tubing to construct his ferrules. 40 .200 .070 (Mark Wendt), Thanks Dennis! The part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo on the female side (butt side) had an inside diameter (ID) of .221", or 14/64. For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. 0.232 This should cause some debate as a lot of our American cousins rave about this wimpy stick? Could this be the difference between an 861711D and an 861711? It's a two piece, 8 foot five weight. What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. I own one of his 7612s and it's a wonderful rod. the grip so I did some interpolation. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. Made 2 of the heavier one. These were Bailey Woods stepdown ferrules. Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) For each size ferrule there is a specific range of dimensions that will fit inside each size. Especially if you know how the rods actually cast. 0.360 (Tim Pembroke). Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? My intention is not to criticize you, but to try to reveal the "big picture" when looking at tapers and stress curves. I have just finished reading your post regarding Straight Line Tapers and Straight horizontal Stress Curves and I must say that you as well as robin really do need a refresher course in Stress Curves. 45 0.186 158623 I deducted .005 for the varnish. Obviously, custom tapers take a little longer to develop and build. I have had my rod alongside an original and except for mine being new they were identical. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. The trouble is, that's all it does! Dave Norling, Rush River Rods, makes a stepdown 13/12 ferrule, the only size stepdown that he offers , that works very well for this taper. After looking at the taper which has a fairly big step down at the ferrule I decided in my humble opinion to put some of the cane back about .01". "God made dogs to steal our hearts and they do.". BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. Can't remember which is which without looking in the book, but one is lighter than the other. 15 0.115 163502 DICKERSON 8013 RBS Special - 8' 2/2 - 5wt- honey colored - the legendary 8013 Special is an impressive and powerful med/fast action all-round trout -- taper miked from a Ray Bergman original shop rod. It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! Start out by choosing your fly rod, and follow it up with a visit to our collection of fly reels. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. I've mostly used it for bass. 0.128 0.278 Dennis looked over his rod and it, too, has two nodes right next to each other. (John Channer), I have never been able to describe to anyone else how a rod feels to them. The 6 for the Hex the 7 for streamers. (Ted Godfrey), I can say the one I don't like is the one in Ray Goulds fine book, 'Cane Rods, Tips and Tapers', page 85. June - October If you look at the individual changes every five inches, no they are not always .014, but the mean and mode are .014". by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post 2023 Spinoza Rod Company. (Paul Blakley). All tapers are based solely or partially on the combinations of these basic deviations from the SLT. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! There are many ways to skin this cat. 0.229 0.214 Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. 0.102 Click Here for Rod Raffle About Bob New Rods Purchasing & Shipping Dickerson Garrison Gillum Glass & Graphite Hardy Heddon Leonard Miscellaneous Rods Orvis Books & Catalogs Other Items Payne 0.266 (Robin Haywood). Jim Schaaf. I don't think anyone fishes the same. About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. 30 0.155 85 0.3145 Talk to any of the 'boo boys who used to work at Winston, and they'll tell you Winston tapers are basically straight (I got that straight from Jeff Walker). a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. The file will convert hex tapers to Quad, Penta, Hex, Hepta and Oct tapers. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. I've fished mine from a drift boat on the Green river and had great success. In fact, I used this taper, hollow built, when taking the FFF casting certification test. by avyoung 06/12/16 21:25, Post by avyoung 06/12/16 21:15, Post The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). Made 4 or 5 of the lighter. (Harry Boyd). It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. (Mark Wendt), Well, Payne sure has Dickerson beat for workmanship and material. All of the Dickerson tapers I have made using Super Zs have been great. Obviously this has to be judicious, as there comes a point where the taper tends more towards an adjacent standard line weight. Even if you take off 0.006 for varnish, in case that wasnt done, its still a 7 1/2 wt. anyway that's how I do it. $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . 85 0.296 138357 Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. 4070 Main Street, Can you direct me to where I can find more information on this? Help from forum members would be welcomed. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? 20 .143 .292 (Will Price). As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. They turn into 5 wts at about 60 feet, up till there, they are are 6 wts. Some good stuff here. Even if EC did "compound" his B-9 taper just in front of the ferrule for a specific reason, it wouldn't negate the fact that this is AT HEART A STRAIGHT TAPER. An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. That is up to the tip transition point, or max tip stress point according to Garrison. So now where do you add or subtract material and what effect will it have on the rod. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. $95.00 All Dickerson copies include Dickerson aesthetics, blued ferrules & an agate stripping guide if desired. I highly recommend him. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. In fact, if you want to design a cane "Parabolic" which will perform as Ritz wanted all you have to do is choose a tip taper you fancy and plonk it out on the end of a fast taper hollow built butt of whatever length you fancy. . I would suggest you should RESPECT the man (as well as EC Powell and others) who made contributions to providing us all with tools to understand and continue to develop taper design (Hexrod being one, a powerful and easily applied tool, I believe based on Garrison's math). I have modified these tapers to adjust them for what I think is a more modern feel. Should be a very nice rod, good Taper. Any rod with a straight taper under load will feel to a greater or lesser extent, unnecessarily heavy in the tip and too soft in the butt. 0.369 (Bob Norwood), I was wondering if anyone has tried out the Dickerson 8615 7wt, the Garrison 221 7 wt, or the Payne Canadian Canoe 7 wt? I do not rule out the possibility of owning a Lyle Dickerson rod one day but, may I ask, if you own or were having a rod made today with a Dickerson taper, If you want a Dickerson - John Pickard is your best choice. It does handle a 7 very well too. The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! I thought it was in there, but I didn't have the link, and the CD I got from Lowell is at home. 10 .112 .262 The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. (David Atchison), Wondered if anyone had the taper for the Dickerson 8012 laying around. Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods. Its just simply to do with maximum stiffness (IE minimum deflection) for a given material weight. Contact us to learn more about how we can help! 0.350 It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. Modified Lyle Dickerson 6611 Dry-Fly Action: 6' 6" 3 or 4: 11/64: 2/2: P702: Ponds, creeks . Manchester, VT 05254 Its definitely a bigger water rod that the 7613. 13/12. Deduct 0.006 from butt, 0.004 from tip. Pt Butt Tip 25 .232 .115 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. The biggest discrepancies are around the ferrules, and you'll notice in many "classic tapers" flattening of the slope into and out of the ferrules - presumably to make fitting a tapered peg into a cylindrical hole easier. (Jerry Foster). by trouttrapper 06/12/16 09:32, Post The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. (Will Price), Is not 7'6'' a bit short for a five weight? (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank (NOW IN A GLOSSY DARK GREEN) $70.00 9' 6" 5wt. Take a Garrison. This means that the finished rod will cast like a ONE PIECE SLT rod. Conversely, the .202 is at the low end of fit for a 14/64. 10 .310 .159 That's the "raw cane" numbers. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. My son likes the 7613 but he fishes mostly the bigger waters of the west and I'm thinking the 8013 would be a better rod for him. You bring up a question I have been trying to work through for some time. If you were to design rods using a visual representation of it's deflection then deviation from a straight line doesn't matter. by dkrismer 06/12/16 20:36, Post (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. Regarding Chris Bogart's Dickerson. (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. It was a rod I hate. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. Digger Digere. 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. Tom Smithwick. (Robin Haywood), I consider a 7 1/2-ft. 5wt. Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 (Gordon Koppin), If I might ask: Which Perfectionist taper do you favor? 3 wt 0.0638 As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. 50% due upon order placement; balance due upon completion. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. 75 0.2855 I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! Dickerson Rods Notes On Rods and Models Rod Features Rod Bags & Tubes Rod Markings and Script Buyer/Collector Beware Dickerson Articles About The Model Profiles Dickerson 761510 Dickerson 8014 Guide The Tom Clark Collection Anecdotes & Unseen Photos Dickerson Guide Series The Earliest Dickerson What Are The Chances? 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. Purchased item: Leonard 38 - Bamboo Vintage Fly Rod Reproduction Bob Thompson Jun 4, 2021 Helpful? It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. The point is this: a straight taper only leads to a flat stress curve, as you say, UNDER THE RIGHT CONDITIONS. 20 .245 .130 by avyoung 06/16/16 18:33, Post I have made several and all have been well received. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. 0.078 Starting at a tip dimension specific to a given line weight you add diameter to the length of the rod in linier increments until you reach the rod length you want. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. Stress curves are the only tool I have seen that give you a visual image of exactly what you have changed and the consequences of that action. The Garrison tip would be .078, B-9 tip would be .059, and a fast .018/5" drop a tip of .035. Neither of the Powell's on Hexrod are straight taper, I have no Winston tapers handy. that'd be super! What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. Pickard makes nice rods for sure. This system could also be very helpful to understand why a classic taper feels the way it feels. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. (Paul Blakley), I have a taper for the Dickerson 7613 and am a little confused. For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. This is a set of 13-14/64 step down ferrules. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. (Jimmy Chang), I have made rods using both tapers. (Chris Obuchowski). You can vary the slope to get the "speed" you want (Garrison's are .013/5"; a B-9 .015/5"; and I've built them as fast as .018/5"). Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. I based the statement of one SLT for a line weight on Bob Norwood's tip dimensions. by softstick 05/09/09 04:36, Post The swell should start in front of the cork, at least 3" to 5". Just basic principles that have been around for years. Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. Sorry! I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. It's why I'm fussy about ring weight on the tips of rods below #6. Look at a graph of the rod dimensions. The guy turns out to be a top casting instructor. .334@35 If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. I just posted on the Rod Builders forum a 861711D Dickerson taper taken from a rod built in 1938 and restored by RW Summers in 2005. 0.241 I have a chart of the dimensions at home, if you need a copy email me off list. If you are designing a rod based on a linear taper and you want to make it a 3 or 4 piece instead of a 2, how would this be taken into account? In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. maybe someone else has one! Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. 25 .156 .310 In practice most people these days do not take well to these technically correct ideas, preferring a slope to the straight line, giving higher strain levels near the tip, i.e. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. (Bob Norwood). When fishing bamboo for trout I believe the "best" length is an 8 foot rod. If you're willing to accept our assumptions about varnish thickness and how to interpolate between measurements, then the table on the last page is the one to use. 35 0.1695 Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post I finally made one for my wife and cut one into 4 pieces for me. It seems that a Garrison-type taper with a straight, flat stress curve would be the most likely to be tolerable. Garrison would have like straight line stress/strain results for the same reason Richard Walker did. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. But I imagine that high output builders didn't have every rod turn out the same for whatever reason. and .360@45. Post The American Museum of Fly Fishing is the steward of the history, traditions, and practices of the sport of fly fishing and promotes the conservation of its waters. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. double taper silk lines at short ranges. They were both practicing engineers! I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. The stepped down portion of the male is 2/64's smaller than the sleeve. This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. (Will Price). And, it's true, if you were really screwed and couldn't get a Dickerson, and were absolutely forced to rough it with a Payne, I do think you could manage to get by without shedding too many tears. 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