Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. 2. Since finishing touches were still being put to the ships accommodation, its hardly surprising that the public was not allowed onboard at Southampton. Secondly, there was a rush to get the ship to Southampton to begin provisioning for the maiden voyage. Firstly, a Harland & Wolff photograph of Olympic, taken when the vessel was in the Thompson Graving Dock in 1911, which shows her to have had a 'vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe'. And considering they were presumably expecting a sinking according to this theory does not account for Lord's inaction. James A. Fenton aka "Paddy the Pig" Paddy Fenton is someone who had told his fellow seamen that they were in fact switched. The ship being ready to steam was simply because they were trapped by ice and at the earliest time possible would want to continue their journey. Ballard has nothing to gain from keeping it a secret - it would be huge publicity for him. Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. There are three key points regarding this claim: 1. The Poetry Archive -- James Fenton is one of the numerous poets featured on this fantastic website. LET'S SEE THE "EXPERTS" DEBUNK THIS ONE." They would not be interested in the transatlantic route as it would mean not returning to Belfast or Southampton for several weeks. This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. In 1912 Paddy [claimed he] was a 22-year- However, 1,000 tons of alterations were made resulting in a final tonnage of 46,328. The lifeboat was wrecked in a collision with the Gosport Ferry at Portsmouth and taken by the Royal Navy to Haslar for demolition. the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. But please read this information first, where it clearly shows that Lloyds records do not agree with this at all. Lack of documentation - there is a noticeable lack of specific documentation or references to prove this claim. James Fenton was born in Lincoln in 1949 and educated at Magdalen College, Oxford where he won the Newdigate Prize for poetry. Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above Deck plans He continues that on the starboard side Steward Wheelton met Thomas Andrews on B Deck and that the boats were visible from the corridor on B Deck. 7. The fields are mined and the moon is bright. His father, a hotel proprietor and licensed victualler, was also born in Portsmouth whilst his mother was a native of Alfriston, Sussex. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. Specifically, her passenger (excluding crew) capacity was listed as 2,550: 1st-class: 100 Plainly put, the addition of 1,000 lbs [sic] to the Titanic still resulted in the Titanic weighing [sic] 46,000, which doesnt make a lot of sense. 'The Olympic Room' 8. Titanic's speed was investigated by Mark Chirnside and Samuel Halpern in their article entitled "Speed and More Speed" from which the following information is taken. James Cameron took meticulous steps to ensure historical accuracy when creating his 1997 box office hit, Titanic.Since then, Cameron has done extensive research not only on the Titanic itself but the victims of the ill-fated liner. Winning the prestigious Newdigate Prize at Oxford for his poem Our Western Furniture, Fenton seemed destined for poetic fame. seemingly confuses the two in name. Toggle navigation. The story come from Frank Finch, a retired seaman living in New South Wales, Australia, who wrote a letter to If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. even higher than IMMs.". Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Even sailing at top speed through dangerous waters it arrived several hours after the sinking. 'The Olympic Room' Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. The panelling used shows a number on the frame that says 401. So that makes it 3 vessels in the area. Far from the wisdom of the brain. 43. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the "iceberg" (or what Gardiner believes was an "IMM rescue ship") interrupted this original plan. Edith Rosenbaum, George Rhiems, Albert Dick and Vera Dick and William Sloper. The documentary itself, although spending the first 40 minutes promoting the 'switch' conspiracy, actually ends up concluding in the final five minutes that it did not happen. They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. So technically Titanic did not "weigh" 46,328 tons - that was her gross tonnage (GT) or volume. 5 on starboard. He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. 14. 5. He was the son of William Francis Butler (b. Even if he did blatantly confuse the names of the ships, it would be clear evidence there was not a 'switch', as otherwise he would have been absolutely sure to get the correct name of the ship to ensure the fraud was watertight. The list is believed to be accurate, but may contain some errors. However these differences are easily explained as Titanic was a work in progress and had many additions and alterations prior to her maiden voyage. (Click image to enlarge). Accomplished through strategic, long term planning . ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". But what do the 'experts' think? There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the the committee, announcing that he will be in Venice on April 23 for the inauguration of the biennial International Art Exhibition, April 25, and dedicate the new Campanile of St. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds[sic] of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight [sic] of the Titanic. 1. If 'switch' conspiracy theorists believe this is the smoking gun of a switch (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) 3. Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. damage control, especially prior to an official inquiry.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'titanicswitch_com-banner-1','ezslot_2',115,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-titanicswitch_com-banner-1-0'); Claim: Harold Sanderson, from shipbuilder Harland and Wolff, repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic at the British inquiry. According to Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book "Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank?" Claim: Titanic had 14 bow portholes. Olympic was damaged badly enough to force the voyage to be cancelled. Titanic 's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing 2. The Chief Mate put Paddy in charge of Take a look at the two photographs and compare for yourself. How many crew and passengers were onboard prior to the rescue? Olympic had 16 bow portholes. 12 was lowered a French man jumped in from B Deck. 12. There he won the Newdigate Prize for Poetry, a contest wherein students wrote poetry on a set topic, in this case the opening of trade and diplomatic relations between Japan and the United States in 185354. And there is evidence of 'white' paint on the hull of the wreck. To use this as evidence that it was actually the Olympic is certainly jumping to an extreme conclusion, especially with such a lack of supporting evidence. When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. the Olympic. This line of reasoning goes with the assumption that Olympic's keel was damaged, for which there is no evidence as discussed in the point above. Refer to the images below. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. (Click to enlarge). Titanic was at full steam but not achieving maximum speed 18. In this photograph we see Captain Smith and First officer Murdoch on Olympic's bridge and clearly see a curved wheelhouse behind them. 26. 35. Titanic's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the. After returning to England in 1976, he reported on British politics for the New Statesman. 11. Fenton, F. -Saloon steward Ferrary, Auto -Trimmer Ferris, W. -Leading fireman . and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. A statement supported by the attraction of more than 4,000 jobs and $1.4 B in Cap Ex. Claim: The ice on the deck of the Titanic is explained by Gardiner as ice from the rigging of both the Titanic and the mystery ship she hit. They would only be interested in shorter crossings. Veined marble is a naturally occurring metamorphic crystalline limestone and, like snowflakes and finger prints, no two pieces are the same. As Titanic had a private promenade behind it the fireplace was moved to the "forward" wall this can be also seen on photographs taken by the press on board Titanic on April 10th 1912 a few hours before her departure and also today in the wreck.". previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. Birma (70 miles) Russian East Asiatic Company Eastbound, New York-Rotterdam-Libau This photograph of Titanic leaving Belfast on her way to begin sea trials allegedly reveals discoloured plating in the same location where Olympic had damage after its collision with HMS Hawke. 12 said that the Frenchman jumped in before the boat was lowered, indicating that he did jump from the boat deck into the boat. When the The wind blows through his silver hair. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. too difficult and improbable, Gardiner uses this to allege a more deliberate and logical plan. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. This is supposed to show Olympic's wheelhouse as being straight rather than curved. it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset as already discussed here the Olympic's damage from HMS Hawke did not exceed $125,000, and there is independent verification of this fact. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Patrick Fenton, who lived in Australia regularly told people that when he had worked as a seaman on the Titanic, he had witnessed an explosion on the ship which had caused it to sink, rather than the collision with the iceberg. The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. Those travelling east bound logically did not depart from England, and so were relatively unaffected by the coal strike. Dr Robert Ballard admitted it was the Olympic Leading Fireman Frederick Barrett testified before the British Wreck Commission that on the day of the collision Thirdly, in a picture of Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, this allegedly shows this vessel not to have the 'tell-tale plating' joint, which to 'switch' proponents proves 'conclusively' that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow. The claim does not align with Ballard's writing on the matter. According to the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground", James Cameron sends a robot submarine into the sitting room of the promenade suite on B deck and films The collision with an We asked them the height of the berg and some said one hundred feet, others, sixty feet; one of the onlookers a motor engineer travelling to America with a model of her 24 double-ended boilers connected up." When or where did he ever say he discovered this? Excerpt from the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground" when director James Cameron explores B-52 during his 1995 dive. However this claim goes with the assumption that the White Star Line was suffering financially. Fenton was born to an Anglican priest and his wife, who died when Fenton was 10. In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered Promenade Suites, identical to Olympic's. )", By December 1911, Titanic was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). Fitting out photographs Additionally, they were not "in the middle of a coal strike". By that time Olympic was at Belfast and underwent a major refit which also included new davits and new lifeboats which were larger than the previous lifeboats.". We also have a substantial amount of supporting evidence to prove that Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved: 1. Ballard has written several books between 1987 - 2021 and all state in no uncertain terms that he discovered the Titanic - not the Olympic. drive the ship at full speed.. According to Gardiner, the original plan to pull off the sinking after the switch was to slowly flood the ship by opening the seacocks. Which brings us to a total of at least 1047 aboard the Carpathia on the night of the Titanic disaster. Thomas Newman, Per l'obra Skyfall (2013) Steven Price, Per l'obra Gravity (2014) Alexandre Desplat, Per l'obra The Grand Budapest Hotel (2015) El BAFTA a la millor msica s un premi que atorga la BAFTA ( British Academy of Film and Television Arts) en una cerimnia anual, en reconeixement a la millor banda sonora . but would have perhaps slowed the rate of sinking. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. Act explaining that if they told of the real reason for the sinking, or the 2nd-class: 200 This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. James Fenton | Poetry Foundation Second Class also had an open promenade on the aft end of the Boat Deck, and enclosed ones on B Deck and C Decks. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. Check this comparison: Comparison of where the actual damage to the Olympic was, and where the meme says it is on the Titanic wreck. His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). The reality is that the Californian's cargo manifest does not exist. Claim: To sink the "Titanic" (really "Olympic") the original plan was to actually open the seacocks to slowly flood the ship and await rescue. Also it must be noted that Titanic's dining room was [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. Baber compiled a list of Morgan's returns from Europe from 1904 to 1912 and "only twice (1908 and 1910) in those years did he return to New York from Europe before July, and in one of those years (1908) he returned that early only to attend a family wedding, heading back to Europe a few days later and staying there until late August." The special effects of the . This was because Olympic's patched-up hull could not take any long periods of high speed. Most died of exposure in the freezing water of the North Atlantic because there were not enough lifeboats. The number 401 on Olympic woodwork 2. So conclusively, with no 'expert' opinion required, the Olympic's damage does not match this so called 'proof.' Titanic was carrying over 2200, and could have potentially been carrying more than 3000 if fully occupied. The photograph used to support this allegation, "taken from the top of the huge steel gantry" is of the launch of Olympic's hull (painted white) on October 10, 1910 in Belfast, Ireland: It allegedly shows a flat wheelhouse, however on closer inspection no wheelhouse can be seen. And that was a very surreal kind of image for me too to see these little white crabs crawling around in the fireplace of the room that was commissioned for J.P.Morgan. This claim is often mentioned alongside the above claim about the apparent discrepancy in the number of portholes on Titanic's port side bow. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. Since they both essentially had the same dimensions, the difference is simply due to revised interior configurations Under the circumstances it is perfectly logical. The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. When they were not working, they were in the pub, drinking and talking. Difference in Titanic's windows on B deck Incidentally, Titanic's name was first filmed in 1987 by IFREMER and Titanic Ventures (later RMS TITANIC INC.) after they cleaned that part of the bow from rust. However, this was not unique to Titanic. distribution for 1910 being 30 percent after depreciation. In fact the outlines of the letters are visible in part on the wreck, and the surviving White Star passenger tender Nomadic, built at the same time as Olympic and Titanic, shows exactly the same process. and this slipped to $4,509,270 in 1911. 33. However, it is definitely not logical. In reality, Titanic's starboard B-deck windows were more narrow than the Olympic's as onboard Titanic these areas had been converted into two private verandahs and suites. This is demonstrably false information. This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. Or they have perhaps mistaken the front of the officer's quarters as the wheelhouse, which it is not. 45,000) in the last eight years. form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at If he had been sworn to secrecy then why did he tell only one or two random individuals? His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" 3rd-class: 2,250. One of the ships bells was In 1979 he became a theatre critic for The Sunday Times, for which he also later served as a book critic. Claim: Survivors on B Deck described seeing lifeboats being lowered from above, theres no way they would have seen that on Titanic only on the ship Olympic. During her construction and in this particular photograph the name was not very clear so the photographer took the liberty of sketching it in, which was not an unusual practice of the day. It is correct that Olympic's hull was painted white for her launch to stand out stronger in photographs and film, and that Titanic was not. If indeed Titanic had been insured at the last minute at "$12.5 million," as is alleged by conspiracy theorists, would this not have raised serious alarm bells in the minds of the insurers at the time, especially if it was part of the public record that the value was "$7.5million"? So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? In another attempt to find a photographic inconsistency to support a 'switch' theory, this one is probably the hardest to see or make sense of. The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. In 33 von 66 Fllen wurde der Preistrger spter mit einem Oscar ausgezeichnet, zuletzt 2022 geschehen, mit der Preisvergabe . After the Titanic disaster this all changed. But this is not due to it being the Olympic. 15 $18.4 17.55 Silver Cricket Fob Recess Antiques 85.00 $104.27 99.42 Silver & M,O,P Fruit Knife.Sheff.1910 By J.Fenton. A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. THIS IS NOT A THEORY. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. 27. So by April 1912 both ships had 16 portholes. It seems those intent on proving a 'switch' have mistaken the missing bridge enclosure, the rectangular gap in the forward bulwark (painted white) for the wheelhouse. the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). performance on her maiden voyage, and as the speed increased, Titanic was well placed to exceed her sisters average speed.". Nor does it prove Gardiners speculation that the name had been ground However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic Against the forward steel wall, the faux marble fireplace with its bronze details seems in perfect condition." The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). Lack of publicity for Titanic The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. would have remained in surplus. However, So in fact rather than proving a 'switch,' exploration of this suite only confirms that it is indeed Titanic that sank. The marble filmed on the wreck exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. the newspaper Northern Star that was published on the 31 July 1996. However, this is not unusual, even for modern ships, and can be due to several factors. As in the previous points, we know that damage to the Olympic did not include a 'warped keel'. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). Could it be In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. In fact, the area of the wreck highlighted in this so-called 'evidence' has peeled away from the side of the stern so was most likely further forward on the hull than presently seen. Olympic's name is on the wreck "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . THERE IS NO MORE THEORY. There were closer ships that would be more feasible. not go to sea as Titanic with Olympic written on the bells. In fact his comment was made at least 30 years after the disaster (he was 20 while aboard Titanic), so could well have been an exaggeration. Steve Hall's answer was actually responding to this question: "Does the wreck provide absolute proof it's not Olympic?" old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. 44. This is consistent with the damage previously sustained by Olympic. sailed in a great hurry from Belfast and said that when they hit the iceberg it Hence it is Olympic, not Titanic. Titanic did not strike an iceberg 1 2. However, there are several large issues with this theory. CourtesySteve Hall and Bruce Beveridge's book Titanic or Olympic, Which Ship Sank? Gardiner bases this hypothesis on the idea that the supposed iceberg was seen at such a short distance by the lookouts because it was actually a darkened ship. At present I have found no evidence of a room named "The Olympic Room" on Titanic, however it would not be surprising. Compare it with the damage photograph below. something else, in this case an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. It was also carrying no passengers, at a time when due to the coal strike and so many ships confined to port there would be plenty of people eager to pay above the cost in cash to get to Boston. Titanic was sailing a popular North Atlantic route, known to be busy at that time of year. 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. Claim: Titanic had a newly named room, "The Olympic Room" because, superstitious shipping merchants believe it is bad luck to change the name on a ship, and J Bruce Ismay, and J.P. Morgan thought it best to have the Olympic's name still somewhere on board. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. And as for both Lord and Smith sleeping "full clothed" that is pure speculation, and has little relevance anyway. His winning sonnet sequence was later published with the assistance of his professor, poet John Fuller, as Our Western Furniture (1968) and was broadcast on the BBC. The proceeds financed his journey that year to Cambodia, where he reported on the Khmer Rouge, and then to Vietnam, where he witnessed the fall of Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) in April 1975. The switch theory primarily rests on the alleged premise that the sinking was a deliberate act to recover insurance money, to rescue the White Star Line from bankruptcy. Titanic in the first week of March 1912 shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied (courtesy Jonathan Smith). 2. First and foremost there is no documented evidence to verify it. Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage, 25. While there is some slight confusion over which ship he is referring to "coming from Belfast to Southampton" there is certainly no evidence here of trying to conceal the identity of the two ships. Morgan and Ismay would have to be fortune tellers as well as fraudsters! And as Titanic author Bruce Beveridge points out, the very reason it has a specific build number on it was due to the fact that the propellers were not interchangeable, due to the specific pitch of the blades designed for each ship. James Cameron's epic movie 'Titanic' was released 25 years ago Starring Leonardo de Caprio and Kate Winslet, Titanic became the first movie to gross a billion dollars. But of course there is overwhelming evidence it was the Titanic that sank, which places this particular claim as purely conspiracy conjecture, for which there is no logic, let alone evidence. Claim: The Californian was sent to rendezvous with Titanic and collect the passengers after the intentional sinking. 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