And then the housing is even more expensive. Are there poorly placed stops right after the off ramps that jam them up? Mine is 35-45 minutes by public transport, and thats about my limit. It will also wear on your car. I think youd be shocked. Nature of the area, which outsiders dont understand, and there are no off times unless its the middle of the night. I live in Federal way and when I was doing my grad school research in SLU it would often take longer to get from Westlake and Thomas to I-5 (~7 blocks) then from Downtown Seattle to Fed (~25 miles). But really try to make sure your mindset on traffic is in a healthy place. Oh, absolutely agreed re the class element. A little over an hour is by commuter rail. Walking (due to rain or bike injury) takes me about 20-25 minutes. I had to do a 50 mile 1 way commute during a couple of limited stints a little over a decade ago (both from my moms once was for a 6 month internship; the second time was for about 2 months when I was between housing in grad school), and those commutes ended up being 1-1.5 hours, depending on traffic. My sister was in the backseat also GPSing the route on her phone, also trying to get around traffic. The Bay Area is another place, like LA, where you really have to limit your geographical options when looking for jobs. Seriously. And while it was scary as hell, we were all so drunk at the time we werent nearly as terrified as we should have been. It can easily fudge up to 45+ minutes if Mr. Town and I carpool and we decide to stop for breakfast. In the afternoons, if I left between 4pm and 6pm, the commute home was an hour or more at least. Do a cost analysis and see what it would cost you to move. My commute for the last 4 years has been 2 hours each way, 90 minutes of which is on a train (Thanks, outdated NJTransit!). Thats half of a standard work day! I now live in the Philadelphia area and my last job was an hour commute either 44 miles on the turnpike or 26 miles in stop-and-go city traffic. Of course, being able to just clock out and listen to music or something on the train is what makes it bearable. Everyone has to consider how much more theyre willing to spend to save time getting to work (or how much of a pay cut theyre willing to take to get a job closer to home). This was about 10 years ago and I couldnt wrap my mind around their commutes then, I shudder to think what thatd be like today. Right? It is already better than Orange County(by far) and seems about as mobile and easy as Los Angeles, but with more trolleys and light rail, rather than subways and light rail like LA. If I moved to the mountains, barring a resort town I found find the same Im sure. Nobody really understands LA traffic patterns until youve been living here for awhile. If you are a have important hobbies, are very social, have people/pets you like to spend time with or have to care for, have a lot of housekeeping/errands you need to do.and your commute is keeping you from those things for too long, then a commute like this probably isnt for you. Perhaps you should take your own advice about making unwarranted assumptions? I work in NYC and live in a suburb about 35 miles away. After sitting in your car for 4 hours, dont waste any of your time TALKING about sitting in your car. LA would only be about 100k, but F that. For a while, my work commute was about 3 minutes, which was nice, but that was when I was living in Ogden, and commuting to Salt Lake for school, and I hit rush hour going to school, so it was a lot worse. If you were able to be close enough to work and be car free how much money could you afford to spend on housing to make that happen? Now I commute 10 miles in 15 minutes, each way. Insanity. It would be completely intolerable. Or you could make a post on the Los Angeles subreddit; theres someone there that could build you an ebike for ~$2000. It would be impossible now. :) Good grief! You move closer to your work, or work closer to your house. Now we live in a different state where distance is measured in minutes, and all our colleagues are amazed we would agree to a 45 minute commute. Hes not wrong though. I used to have a 15 mile LA commute that was never less than 45 minutes and would reach 2 hours at least a couple of tines a week. Hope you dont mind me interjecting, but I can recommend something if you like smart comedy! (I know theres not just about it.). I drove from Lombard to Deerfield 3x a week for 5 years, at least yours is sort of a straight shot. You should see the housing prices in LA proper. Youre likely making some unwarranted assumptions on the basis oflets give you and everyone else the benefit of the doubt, and call it a combination of style and socioeconomics. Mrs. Coach Taylor Wait, I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo! No matter what normal is, you have to go with whats feasible for you. Its not just the length of the drive; its also how stressful it is, and sitting in traffic is always stressful. Ive never lived in CA, so I cant speak to whether thats normal for the area, but that sounds miserable and not something you should accept. I feel for you. This is comforting, I am preparing to move to Malibu to live with an elderly family member and dreading the commute. heres some free help preparing for job interviews. Oh man, try working here in a developing nation in Asia like Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines and youll realize just how fortunate you guys are. It was 31 miles door to door. You likely have a job you're required to be at for 8 to 9 hours a day, minimum. Its a choice. I know some people that do 1-1.5 hour commutes from outlaying rural areas into my city to work; employment options are scarce in really tiny towns and until they have another oil boom they wont get anything for their house. Its totally fine. Itd be unthinkable. For us, itd would have been a lightly populated freeway with swift-moving cars. It was ridiculous; I stuck it out until I was able to transfer closer a couple years ago. Now Im in NM and oh my, its wonderful and I never ever want to go back to a big city. It is normal enough thoughI know several folks who commute that long or longer into Manhattan, Boston, etc. Which probably means a higher rent. Even though its not far as the crow flies, I have to budget up to 90 minutes to get to work. My previous job was 45 minutes away still not bad, is it? The challenge is to find something that will be better for him but also public-transitable for me. Traffic in Southern California is just a fact of life. I would move closer to work but cant afford it. Never moving there either. I work in the East Bay, and people in my office commute from Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. Lordy, I hope someone is watching. ! I did not own my part in natural selection. In 2010, the Bay Area ranked 2 nd for fastest commutes, but since then the region has seen the largest increase in commute time among major metros. Without him around, I had to quit my job to take care of the baby. Never again. When I lived in WA there were a LOT of horrible (white) drivers who, as my roommate put it all learned to how to drive in the sticks on a tractor and has no idea how to handle real cars on the almost traffic-free roads & freeways in the small town where I lived. However if youre going to go down that route Id get something written into your contract specifying thats its 1 day per week. That said, I do still miss the beach and weather a ton. Ive commuted 90 minutes for one job and 40 minutes for my last job. Like many commuters, Neil Shapiro never quite knows what will happen on his . Good weather, goodish food, non-crazy commutes, relatively low housing prices and good jobs available. From what I hear, though, thats probably normal for your area. If you otherwise like your job, is moving closer to work an option? My stomach and heart misses it so much. They drive in early, do their gym time, and thus avoid traffic at its worst in the mornings. Total nightmare, but they had to do it (for years) because they had a good job in an industry that would not have had something comparable with a really good commute. I tried the drive at 7:00 AM two days in a row, and it turned out to be a nightmareschool buses and dump trucks turned the no-passing areas into parking lots. Yep; we discovered that the hard way last year while visiting my uncle in Palos Verdes. It may be normal there, but it greatly informed my decision to move elsewhere after I graduated. When hes gone on the train/tube it took him 2.5 hours. Being able to flexible about starting and ending times was the most helpful thing, but learning the traffic patterns is also key, especially on the freeway. 1.5 hours each way. I figured out why I was too tired to go to the gym after work; I spend two to three hours a day behind the wheel. one hour is my limit for commuting and I managed to make that work (although with a fair amount of compromise along the way). No intent to attack! You can see them broken down by metro area here and by county here. Echoing what the others said I moved close to Hollywood for my first job which had a reasonable commute (15-20 min by car). Read a zillion comments & all I can think of is that here in California we are really suffering with tons of jobs but zero transit & housing solutions (sigh). I wont leave SoCal again til I shuffle off this mortal coil. I paid out the nose for it in rent, but it was worth it. Theres only one route to bike from the Miracle Mile to UCLA, along Wilshire Blvd. If the commute turns out to be terrible, look into renting a room at someone's apartment or house (or even in a nearby extended day or hotel, if that's financially feasible). Actual experience trumps book learning every time. I just cross my finger and hope I dont run into anyone too crazy. If Its an hour Id prefer to be walking or using public transit though hate being stuck in a car. If Id had to drive for 2.5 hours each way, Id be a very sad puppy. Yes! Ive done a 2 hour each way commute, but I hated it. Its much quicker, more reliable, and less stressful to *always* have a 35 minute commute than a car that could get you there in 25-45 minutes whenever you wantor get you stuck on a bridge burning fuel in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour and a half+! I think a long commute driving wears on you much much more than,say, public transit where you can work on other things. A friend posted earlier in the week that median prices in Seattle are now over $800,000. I read an article on I think the Gothamist about people who travel from Philadephia to NYC roundtrip daily. Id love to know more about working/living there. I can deal with an hour commute even thought I hate it because its pretty common in Houston. :(, If you give me some idea of what you like, I can make audiobook recommendations! Im one of the rare people who live in the same city as my employer, although only because I cant afford to move. Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. Some people do it, sure, but Id say around an hour to an hour and a half is the norm. Also, the fact that youre stuck in traffic barely moving speaks to me too that would be a huge factor for me. Sure, it was nice to sometimes get home early but being able to reliably plan dinner cooking, meeting up with friends, errands and appointments, etc fits much better into our life. I live on the East Coast and my commute is about 15 miles and takes me 20 minutes. As for Cali traffic, I experienced it when I went there for a business trip a couple years ago. Your company doesnt need someone who speaks fluent Russian or German do they? The roads are bad (potholes that could eat a car), and all the ways to my suburb are sketchy. 710 is usually fine. My current commute is now 15 minutes and my husbands is 5 minutes (he takes his bike instead of his car sometimes, weather permitting), and it really makes a difference in our quality of life. My thought being, whats the point of living somewhere nice if youre not home enough to enjoy it? Thoroughly agreed. in. I also had one experience of an urban fantasy / paranormal romance audiobook getting a little heated while I was in the bumper to bumper traffic and have mostly sworn off listening to those in the car now, heh. Easy Apply. Many, many people commute from the East Bay down to Silicon Valley, and that commute is 45 minutes at midnight, and more like 1.5 or even 2 hours in bad traffic. WAZE can take you on this back roads, and I agree, sometimes it does help to not go crazy from just sitting on a freeway, but it can be an adventure! When I worked (and lived, lucky me) in Fremont CA, pretty much everyone else that I knew who worked there had a totally garbage commute because housing there is so ridiculous. Just dont make the mistake I did and listen to The Road and Beloved back to back driving on desolate roads in a bleak New England January. If its an option to exit, Id go for a longer way around just to keep from sitting it traffic for 2 hours. I do think its more about what works for you than what the norm in your region is. This move added 15-20 minutes each way to our commutes, but it cut our rent in half and got us a bigger apartment. I commuted from Huntington Beach to Burbank one timeit wasnt fun, but it was normal to me. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I live in the Bay Area too and 30 miles is never two hours well unless you go through SF. I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo (13 miles door to door) and its usually 35 minutes in the morning and 50-70 minutes in the afternoon, which somehow still boggles my mind every time I sit in it. The U.S. is different than some countries in that many big cities dont have great public transportation. . Subway takes 30 best case and 50 worst case, car takes 18-60. We looked at rent in the bay area (my wife was thinking about applying for some companies there) and noped out. There are certainly lower income pockets in the inner city, but you cant really apply the typical city center/suburb model to our sprawling behemoth. Folks drive at the limit or (more often) 10-15 miles over limit when theres room to do so. 6.05 leave house, in office 7.45, and leave 16.30, back hopefully 18.00. Back then, it was a Big Deal for us to go to the Big City for shopping, dining, etc. Im wary of any directions and side streets not given to me by locals. One way!). I assume the writer lives in the valley and works on the ocean side which means theres only one way through the mountains the 405, aka the busiest highway in the country. I wish I knew how good I had it back then! It was 2 hours each way. Hope you find something that keeps you off the road! Its easier when LAUSD is on their various school breaks and also during the summer, but 2 hours to get 30 miles actually sounds normal and about right, depending on which freeways you have to take. Small company full of hip millennials who are transplants and live in WeHo. What can you sustain long term without living in misery? That is sadly very normal out here (and thats my current commute). For this area, its the cost of housing that drives people to live further away from the metro areas and creates those long commutes. Id love to get behind audiobooks but I dont seem to read books which have audiobook versions (or at least, they didnt when I last looked)! Your commute is not going to change before this commute makes you lose your mind. Yes, exactly! So Cal commuting traffic is no joke it may be normal to some people but that doesnt make it ok!! I think thats my cutoff. Now my commute is 10-20 minutes, depending on the day and whether I hit the no traffic pocket or notfor some reason, if I leave at exactly 6:35, theres no traffic, so I just cruise, no traffic frustrations. I have a good job at a good organization that Im not willing to leave, and trying to find work in a different state is a difficult endeavor. In bed by 9-10PM I could leave at a certain time and usually expect that everything would work out, but sometimes the world said Nah, lets make a car careen off the road today.. There are people commuting from Sacramento to San Franciscono kidding! Some cities (San Fran being one) are simply not affordable for people, or people would rather live outside the city, and they make the decision that the job is worth that choice. Not a thing I could do about it. The problem in practice is human drivers. East Coast here: I drive 24 miles each way in Fairfield Cty, CT during rush hour. Chicago suburbs, work just past the West Loop; my morning commute door-to-door (walk, Metra, work shuttle) is an hour. Not to sound melodramatic, but Once you find something closer to home, you will gain so many hours back youll wonder what to do with yourself. There are ever-growing RV encampments all over with people just trying to make ends meet. But also yes, if youre planning to stay in LB, its really better to find a job nearer to where you live. I actually lived in Boston and LA so am qualified to answer. And again psychologically we love our cars and the freedom to move about on our own schedule so even if they spend the money to improve the public transport system (there is a big push in that direction to add more lines to the Metrolink train system), the people who have the privilege to choose, arent inclined to choose public transportation. Its normal if you are going into West LA or OC (and that you are not going against traffic). I live in NE LA and work in North Hollywood, which is about 17 miles and usually takes between 30-45 minutes. I live 6.5 miles from my home in Arlington, Mass. If the bus is right there, it is a little quicker. So, yeah, something can be typical for a region, but that doesnt mean you have to leave the region to get a better commute. I dont know how people drive standards here ;). It would take maybe 10 minutes longer than by car. Its 8 miles away against the flow of traffic. That said, the days where the commute gets over 1 hour are tough, and I definitely couldnt do that twice a day. An excellent point! 4) Look for a job is a completely different location with less traffic, Cool story. Splurge on Audible, or ad-free Spotify. That's fine. People love to gripe about traffic, but it only will make you feel worse. Now it take 15-25 minutes depending on how long the lines are at the main gate. A lot of people average that around here, just because they live outside Salt Lake and commute in, plus they all work *9-5*. Although, when I did commute on public transit the trains were messed up about 80% of the time, which was very frustrating (South West Trains! Oops, I posted something else before I saw this. I can hate on the MTA all I want, and i pay a lot of rent, but I live above the subway, which goes directly to my office. This is soooo much better though. Why?! 55-1 hour 15. stop and go. My commute is 20 minutes in the morning and 25-30 in the evenings. Makes sense if you receive more benefit on the other 6 days of the week. My sister in laws father lives in Calabasas and thats his typical commute. Hah! It takes 10 plus minutes to get off my hill which is a mile on some days. DC area is another one where new arrivals should really get local info about traffic before committing to a job and/or housing. 30-45 on a good day. When I move 5 miles further, I will need to switch jobs because that extra 5 miles will add an hour to my commute. Thats the kind of analysis you have to undertake to avoid a 2-hour commute in that part of SoCal. Only two main surface streets (or I-90 and one surface street, but I try to avoid it because I hate tolls). I loved my neighborhood when I first moved to DCI was near Shaw, and it was amazing: I was right across the street from a great bar, cool restaurants in easy walking distance, and I loved the architecture. Good luck, OP! I am 100% surprised there were no bite marks in my steering wheel by the end of it. Try carpool with coworkers that live in or near Orange County. My 1.5-2 hour commute (each way) to drive a little over 10 miles was one of the reasons I had to leave that city. (I had a part time flexible schedule and worked out super early near work on the days I did not to avoid the worst of the traffic. My commute to work is about 9 miles and usually takes about 40-50 minutes, but can easily be over an hour on a bad day. I did that for 10 years. Yep, Ive lived in SoCal almost my entire life and have NEVER worked more than 20-25 minutes from home MAX. For me the cost of living is a trade off I am willing to take to not spend my life commuting. Of course she needs facts. Its really not that bad and I worry perhaps your judgement is based on stereotypes about said neighborhoods. I couldnt imagine doing that every day. So while I think theres a few factors contributing here, I think its perfectly OK to not WANT a two-hour commute, and to figure out how to make your life easier on yourself. Thats WHY we have such horrible traffic! I hope you find the perfect combination. Really test it. I would be so thrilled if public transit was ever an option! I remember in 1999 one of my colleagues saying her commute time had doubled even though she lived and worked in the same places. While I was doing this, there were some people from National Office (DC area), whose commutes were up to 2 1/2 hours (ugh! *I dont actually want to move, I just want to sleep in a little longer every morning. Ive been lucky in that Ive very often lived walking or bicycling distance from work (although my definition of bicycling distance is probably a lot longer than other peoples). But in this case there is wide spread collective knowledge that confirms the traffic. My company allows WFH as much as two days a week, which gives people flexibility and a better work/ life balance. This entry was posted in Health & Wellbeing. The work hours and commute hours add up to 60 to 62.5 hours per week. even with having many more public transport options. I did have a job with a two-hour each way commute once, but I only put up with it because one, no one else would hire me back then, two, it was temporary, and three, I didnt have too many reasons to hurry back home. Yuuuuuup. LW I understand your struggle. I lived in hollywood, worked in Brentwood. Would you be able to at least leave earlier, even if you cant start work early? can I get my coworker to stop using awful corporate jargon? It really is. My car was still like new after 2 years of a 25 mile each way commute in the south. I would push hard for the flexible schedule idea. I live in the suburbs and work in a mid-Atlantic city. Im putting in my notice during my 3-month review.No point leading them on, I know even if I stayed another month Id still quit in the end and its impossible to interview without calling out with these hours. Distant suburbs are lower income than most of the city. I dont think Ive ever worked anywhere more than a 20, 25 minute drive away and usually far less than that. On some freeways its almost all trucks and it makes a difference. Music is a different matter, because I wont lose the plot if my mind drifts away for a bit. My commute at the previous job was 30 minutes or under (by car), but my work hours were at least 1 hour longer. Now they spend 3 to 5 hours a day in their cars. Doing a recomp will also depend massively on your diet and sleep quality. 4 years in Boston has only added ~3,000 miles (and >half of that is road trips), but the car is getting much more wear. LA does have public transportation systems, HOV lanes and toll roads to help ease traffic, but they are really inefficient, inadequate and expensive as you get further away into the suburbs so there isnt a big incentive for people to use them. I am in the NYC area and currently have a 2:05 commute each way daily. Its pretty easy to demonstrate that this isnt true just by reading this comments thread. I dont work work from home either, just happen to literally be able to walk to work. To live closer to work, my mortgage would double, my house would shrink by half, and my utilities would triple (the county where I work is REALLY poorly run). Transit trips tend to be longer on average than driving commutes, which can be because of the added time of transfers/connecting/slower travel, but also because people are willing to tolerate longer transit trips than driving trips since they can zone out/sleep/read/work en route. Interestingly enough, the only sketchy/uncomfortable experience Ive EVER had on LA Metro was on the Expo line late at night on the weekend. Im a young woman who commuted from OC to LA for years via the metro in my early 20s. It doesnt really matter what your boyfriend thinks is normal if thats simply unsustainable for you. You forgot all of the American citizens (from all over) with legal licenses who drive like utter shit. I used to commute from Berkeley to Fremont, which wasnt so bad because of flexibility in my schedule. long in miles, loooong in traffic. I didnt mind that it took an hour, because of course it did. This information was found in a TUC study on commuting times in 2019. (Its slightly embarrassing for a 38 year old guy to admit, but during my last 6 month contract I managed to get through the whole Harry Potter series. No matter how I adjusted it was still awful. More than that would be un-doable for me. I would imagine most people decline to work that far away from home precisely because it isnt a sustainable commute, thus keeping the average commute lower. There are a lot of jobs in OC. And once every few months several hours. Many years ago we moved away from Orange Country and traffic was one of the big reasons. Sometimes I go to another gate and back around the base to my building so at least Im moving versus just sitting in a long line. I lived in Tokyo for years and 90 minutes-two hours is common but that is by train so you dont have to pay attention. I straight-up moved back to the Midwest because that wasnt how I wanted to spend my whole life, and it was a great decision. My dad did this when he and my mother bought their first house. If it's a good work opportunity you might as well give it a try. Im really trying to do the same, as I had an hour-long commute in high school and it was rough. I did Culver City to Santa Monica for a while (before the expo line opened!) I guess my number 2 worst commute is anywhere east of DTLA to anywhere west of Los Feliz. :) It doesnt matter if its Anaheim to LB, Pasadena to Westwood, etc. I have friends who live in Orange County and have two hour commutes each way. This does not sound like a sustainable schedule. Most people I know live within 10-15 miles of their job in my city, but it will still take them an hour to an hour and a half. I probably massively bore my friends lately by pushing audiobooks and going on about my favourites. I fill up 2 times a week @35-38 dollars. Luckily for me, when I am in Sunnyvale, my commute is only 10 minutes door to door. Even then, traffic here was pretty heavy. Agreed, although theres a huge class element to commutes. The premise of this is just bonkers to me. Im excited to see what everyone thinks and shares. Long commutes are the price we pay for a job sometimes. A 2 hour commute is a reason to move. People are busy going about their own lives no matter whether youre in South Central or Wilshire Blvd. NOTHING on earth would be worth a 4+ hour commute like that for me. 2 hours isnot abnormal for this area. When I lived in Chicago, I commuted reverse from just south of downtown to a suburb out by the airport, and it was routinely 2 1/2 hours one way. Exactly. Like others have already said you have to do whats best for you and what you can tolerate. 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